Thursday, December 6, 2007

There's Bad Customer Service, Then There's Capital One's Customer Service

Hi Everyone,

I've finally gotten everything resolved with Capital One after literally months of work to clear up a credit card charge, and now that I've gone through that experience I want to discuss the insane leaps and bounds I went through to get this sub-$3o0 charge off my credit card. So here's the story of how Capital One lost a customer and unveiled the horrible customer service of their company:

So Capital One reeled me in through their many commercials, and their constant stream of credit card mail offers that seemed to invade my mailbox everyday. Having used a debit card for years, I decided that I wanted to begin building credit and get some cash rewards in the process so I decided to take the plunge and get a Capital One Credit Card. For the first year or so there were absolutely no problems other than the somewhat annoying website problems that would have me find their payment system down for a day or more at a time. Despite all of this I was quite satisfied with my choice of going with Capital One until one faithful day in August.

This past August a friend and I decided to spend the weekend at Pechanga Casino, a local Indian Casino, in Temecula, CA . Having driven nearly two hours to get there we were told that we would not be able to stay there as we had booked through Orbitz and it didn't correspond with their system or their rooms. Now I had many words with nearly everyone who worked at the casino, and yet they just wouldn't put me up in a room due to being overcrowded, which was the first customer service I have ever had at a hotel. So after driving back, now taking 3 hours as the traffic started, I attempted to get Orbitz to give me a refund. At first they were quite receptive, but after numerous follow-up calls they never made good on their promise to refund my credit card for the nearly $300 room charge. At this point I sure was happy that I had used a credit card for the purchase, and envisioned getting my money back quickly and easily from Capital One with just one phone call. Boy was I wrong.

I was able to file the dispute online and had the charge taken off my account immediately. I then received a letter in the mail a few days later asking for additional information, which I gladly gave and sent back in the same day. At this point I couldn't believe how well this was going, and was happy that I had decided to go straight to my credit card company. I received some more letters stating that they had not received my letter, and resent it as well as faxed it. I even called customer support to confirm that it had gone through. While a bit perturbed that my original letter got lost in the mail or was misplaced by Capital One I still had a great impression of Capital One's service.

While on a date towards the end of October I tried to use my credit card and found that it had been declined. I figured that it was either a fluke or the waiter didn't know how to put it through so I paid with cash and pulled out my iPhone to see what was up. Nearly two months after the original dispute I find the complete charge, nearly $300, billed back to my credit card by Capital One, my own credit card company. It was nearly the end of the month so my credit card was quite full of charges so this $300 had pushed it past my limit causing overdraft fees, and my inability to use the card anymore.

At very few other times had I been so angry with a company (The only other comparable time was when I had to switch hosting companies due to them not responding for 12 hours despite promising 24/7 service). I called that night and for the next two nights after that, but was told that office was not open until Monday by outsourced call center representatives. Come to find out Monday when I finally get through to the New York office that they are indeed open 24/7 all year-long, which made me even angrier. The fact that they told me I had never sent them any of their letters back only made the fire burn stronger. They also wouldn't temporarily take the charge off either. So I had to wait for another letter to be sent out, it took 3 days, which should have been sent out before my account was charged along with a phone call notifying me of the pending charge.

After submitting the letter again nothing happened so I called another representative and confirmed the faxed letter with her. Yet still nothing is taken off my account, and I haven't been even acknowledged that they were reviewing it a week after the fact. At this point I called once again and asked for a supervisor. Well I should was in for a treat. After explaining my situation in a somewhat calm if not completely unemotional way this customer service woman began to raise her voice. This was new for me, and as she continued by yelling at me that she didn't like being told what to do or being insulted (Neither of which I had done) I told her how I really felt and hung up.

Calling another number got me to the head of the claims department who was the first person to actually help me through this whole fiasco. She apologized for the other supervisor's behavior, and promised that she would be dealt with. She then informed me that they had recieved every single one of the letters that I had either faxed or mailed, but that they had a question about one of the items of information. She informed me that their limited software only allowed them to send that one generic letter stating that they had never received the email. She quickly resolved my problem, and I was able to get all of my money back.

To give you an idea of the hassle this whole thing was I talked to literally 8-10 people with nearly half of them being outsourced call center representatives, had to mail 5 or so letters, faxed 3 or so letters, and spent hours on the phone trying to figure out what I was doing wrong when the whole thing could have been solved if the employees were educated on the computer system's generic letter limitation, and/or that more specific letters were mailed to customers.

Morals of the Story for Me:
1. Be sure that every customer service member is trained
2. Don't outsource your customer service that deals with any type of account problems, money problems, or any other situation where your customer is going to be easily irritated and is not going to appreciate having to repeat everything due to you saving a couple pennies
3. Use the phone to notify customers of problems so you can verify they have been informed
4. Don't do anything to a customer's account without informing them well beforehand

So I am looking for a new credit card company (I've heard American Express is good???), and being sure that we as a company and even more so myself personally don't make any of the mistakes that Capital One did in the future, even as we grow.

-Brad Jashinsky
CEO/CoFounder of
Reimagine Memories
http://www.ReimagineMemories.com

8 comments:

Unknown said...

I have had the most frustrating experience with Capital One. I finally gave up on phone calls and went thru e-mail. Here is the correspondence so far:
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December 19, 2007 04:08 PM
Subject: Re: Account terms (fees, APR, etc.)
Message: Hello Terry,

We appreciate your feedback concerning our services and have forwarded
your complaint to the appropriate department. Capital One's goal is to
provide all of our customers with the highest level of service, and we
sincerely regret that your experience with our customer service did not
represent that goal.

If you have any other questions please reply to this message.

Thank you for being an Online Banking customer.

Regards,

Capital One Online Banking



Original Message Follows:
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I tried using the 800 number and found it very irritating. I was on hold
for over 10 mins, spoke to someone that could not speak English very
well. She put me on hold for at least 2 mins twice and when I asked for
a supervisor, she put me on hold again for 2mins she said. I waited
5mins or longer and finally gave up. I guess thats what you wanted. I
think I will be taking my business elsewhere.

Try to update your customer service please.

-----------------------------------

Hello Terry Voss,

Thanks for your message regarding your account. We'll be glad to assist
you. Please call our Customer Relations Department at 1-800-955-7070
(1-804-934-2001 if you are overseas). Our representatives are available
24 hours every day for your convenience.

If you have any other questions please reply to this message.

Thank you for being a Capital One customer.

Regards,

Capital One Online Banking


Original Message Follows:
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I have been a customer since 2000. I have been paying you regulalrly,
even $200 a week at times. I have paid my balance down to $3200 but yet
you rewarded me by lowering my Max to $5700. Why?

I am paying 15.5% interest and think I deserve a chance to get a lower
interest rate. I have a savings account with HSBC and am considering a
change to their Credit Cards with 0% transfer rate. I also have been
offered a similar card from Discover.

Can Capital One help me out, please?

Reimagine Memories Blog said...

Hi Terry,

Sorry for not seeing your comment earlier. We were having spam problems and by accident stopped redirecting this email address to one of the ones we check daily.

Sorry to hear about all of your problems with Capital One. They really have been one of the most frustrating companies I've dealt with over the years (Blockbuster being right up there, and will be the subject of an upcoming post). American Express has been great so far, and getting the card through my Costco Store Account was pretty great. I wish American Express was taken at more places though.

I hope everything works out for you.

Happy Holidays,

-Brad

Unknown said...

I am in a similar situation with Capital One. If you still have the contact information you used to escalate, could you send it to me? josiah.sullivan at gmail.com

Chris said...

The credit card companies are all evil...

Transcall Global said...

Don't waste your time and energy dealing with Capital One. Horrible customer service. The only thing their reps know how to do is verify the account and nothing more. They are a bunch of robots with no sense of what customer service is. AMEX OPEN is the BEST card to have. Every interaction with them is exceptional customer service.

FaerieVamp said...

Around Sept 2, I marked a charge as fraud b/c it was from Tampa, Fl. I hadn't been to tampa anytime during my summer trip.

So, I immediately mark it as fraud to be on the safe side. Then, I start digging through 3 months of receipts seeing if they made a mistake on the location.

I finally found it Sept 26th or so. So, I call them and tell them that i found the receipt and it was a legit charge.

I told them I would pay for the charge. Well, they charged me twice for it!

I've been calling for the past week and a half to get them to take away the double charge and only charge me once.

I've been dealing with the outsourced people that keep transfering me, and all they can do is verify who you are and not help AT ALL!

One of the people said by the end of today (Oct 3, 2008) it would be fixed. Its 8:47pm CST here
and it still shows the double charge.

The person i just talked to was rude, and she couldn't do anything for me except verify who I am and tell me that I have to call back later and deal with them again.
to deal with them again....after I've been having to deal with them for the past week and a half b/c they cant get anything right!


If you have any number for a non outsourcing line... PLEASE let me know.

Reimagine Memories Blog said...

Hi FaerieVamp,

Sorry to hear about all of the problems you've had with Capital One. Ever since posting this post I've received a great number of emails describing horrible stories about Capital One support.

I don't have a direct line number that works anymore since they unfortunately seem to change the 800 number of the North American based call center. I do have a great tip though of how to talk to them, which is call up the same number you've been calling and ask to cancel your card. This will freak them out, and you will be transferred to a North American call center who handles cancellations who will try to do everything in their power to make you not cancel your card. At this point tell her your story, and tell her you want to be transferred right away to a North American call center that handles these claims.

Once you get to this point you are home free, and the call center reps in that call center are actually quite nice and helpful. They should finally solve your problems.

I hope everything gets resolved for you. Please come back and make a comment to let us know what happened. I also suggest signing up for an American Express OPEN card, and using that as your primary card. I've been really happy with them over the past year both with support, rewards, and their website functionality as well.

FaerieVamp said...

Follow up on my post:

I want to show my messages with them before I tell what happens.

October 01, 2008 12:50 PM
Message:
Hello (name),

Thanks for your message.

We'll be glad to assist you. Please call our Fraud Department at
1-800-427-9428 (00+1+804-934-2001 if you are overseas). Our
representatives are available 24 hours every day for your convenience.

If you have any other questions, please reply to this message.

Thank you for being a Capital One customer.

Regards,

Capital One Online Banking


Original Message Follows:
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I'm starting to get really upset. I have already called, yet nothing
has been done in the past 48 hours. You guys have double charged me for
a transaction that was marked as fraud because it was described as a
city I have not been to (which still needs to get fixed). I'm very
upset that nothing has been done to fix the description or the double
charge. Please fix this.



October 04, 2008 02:49 PM
Message:
Hello (name),

Thanks for your message regarding fraud charges as we are unable to
handle these charges via this channel. We'll be glad to assist you.
Please call our Customer Relations Department at 1-800-955-7070
(00+1+804-934-2001 if you are overseas). Our representatives are
available 24 hours every day for your convenience.

If you have any other questions please reply to this message.

Thank you for being a Capital One customer.

Regards,

Capital One Online Banking


Original Message Follows:
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I am TIRED of calling you CaptialOne and not getting the help I need. Why is it so difficult to put ONE charge of $4.82 on the account?
That's all there is suppose to be. Not two, not zero, but one. I will
take zero as compensation for all this that I'm having to deal with
because CapitalOne can't get anything straight. Do NOT tell me to call anyone again. Just get it fixed, I'm am HIGHLY annoyed that CapitalOne has this poor customer service!



Yeah... I LOVE their automated messages that just tell you to call outsourced numbers!

Anyway, I did what Reimagine Memories said to do. I called the only number there is (outsourced of course) and told them I wanted to cancel my account. They asked why, I said "poor customer service". The lady then hung up on me. So, I call back again, having to verify EVERY SINGLE PIECE of my information both times of course. And I say the same thing, "I want to cancel my account." She asks why, I say the same thing, "poor customer service". Though she actually transfers me to a the accounts center and a guy from Colorado answers. Thank God! I tell him my story. He actually takes the time to review what's going on and LISTENS to me. He was a BIG help. He even called the department that could adjust it (b/c he couldn't and he told them what was going on so I wouldn't have to). That guy should get a raise! Seriously! Anyway, they said it should be fixed now. Yay!